Purported conversation with prostitute after sex centres on PM's apparent prowess

John Hooper in Rome，Thursday 23 July 2009 18.34 BST

The Italian prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, faced further – and even more excruciating – embarrassment today when the weekly news magazine L'Espresso posted a recording on its website apparently made soon after he had finished having sex with a prostitute.

Berlusconi has sought to make light of the release this week of a series of tapes, saying Italians knew he was "no saint". But he did not deny their authenticity, although his lawyer had earlier claimed they were fake.

In by far the most intimate recording so far, the prime minister purportedly discusses male orgasms and the advisability of female masturbation with Patrizia D'Addario, the escort who claims to have spent the night at his Rome residence last November.

D'Addario, who has said she made the recordings on her mobile telephone, supplied them to prosecutors in Bari who are investigating whether to bring charges against the businessman alleged to have arranged for her to visit Berlusconi.

The recording begins with D'Addario purportedly telling the prime minister that a young man "would have already come in a second".

After the voice alleged to be Berlusconi's says "the problem, in my opinion, is a family one", D'Addario asks: "You know how long it is since I had sex the way I had it with you tonight?" She then answers her own question, saying: "Months. Not since I left my man. Is [that] normal?"

The reply is: "If I may, you ought to have sex by yourself. You ought to touch yourself with a certain frequency."

In another recording posted to the web today, Berlusconi purportedly shows D'Addario and other women around his estate on Sardinia.

This is the third batch of tapes to be put up on websites by L'Espresso and its sister publication, the daily La Repubblica, in what has become an acrimonious trial of strength.

Berlusconi has denied that he was aware that D'Addario had been paid to visit him. She was one of several women recruited by a southern Italian businessman, Giampaolo Tarantini, to attend a party at the prime minister's private residence. According to a recording released earlier, they were each paid €1,000 (£860), but expected more if they stayed the night.

John Hooper发自罗马，2009年7月23日 周四 英国夏令时18：34

意大利新闻周刊L'Espresso今天在其网站上放出了一段明显是在西尔维奥·贝鲁斯科尼和一位青楼女子尽享“鱼水之欢”之后不久录下的录音，这让本就因性丑闻而声名扫地的意大利总理更加如坐针毡。

贝卢斯科尼曾试图低调处理这周爆出的一系列性丑闻录音带，他说意大利人民都知道他”不是圣人“。但他并没有否认这些录音带的真实性，尽管他的律师早先曾声称这些录音带是伪造的。

据称，在这份至今为止内容最火辣的录音里，总理大人和声称去年11月曾到罗马总理官邸和贝卢斯科尼共渡春宵的援交女郎Patrizia D'Addario大谈男性性高潮和女性自慰的好处。

D'Addario声称这些录音是她用手机录下的，并将它们交给了巴里检方——他们正在对被认定安排D'Addario和贝卢斯科尼会面的商人进行调查，以决定是否对其进行起诉。

录音的开始，D'Addario告诉贝卢斯科尼，要是换一个年轻人，“也许一秒就出了”。

在一个被指认为贝卢斯科尼的声音说“我认为，这是一个家庭问题”之后，D'Addario问到：“你知道我上一次像今晚和你这样做爱是多久之前了么？”接着，她自问自答说：“好多个月了。自从我离开我的男人之后就再也没有过了。（这）正常么？”

总理大人回答到：“要我说，你应该自己做爱。你应该有规律地自慰。”

在今天网站上放出的另一段录音中，贝卢斯科尼向D'Addario和其他女人展示他位于撒丁岛的庄园。

这次的录音是L'Espresso和其姊妹刊物《共和国报》网站上放出的第三批录音。这已经成为了一场剑拔弩张的角力。

贝卢斯科尼否认他知道D'Addario是受人雇佣和他会面。一位来自意大利南部的商人Giampaolo Tarantini聘请了若干女郎到贝卢斯科尼的私人住所参加一次聚会，而D'Addario就是其中之一。根据此前披露的录音，这些女郎每人得到了1000欧元（约合860英镑）的报酬，但如果她们能在总理那儿过夜就能得到更多。