今天的这段对话，在讨论音乐界，
互联网发达的时代，流行歌手怎么获得报酬
来听今天的讲解:
A: Alright, so Ben, what do you think about the music industry recently?
好，本，你怎么看最近的音乐界？
B: Recently? Actually, you know I don't really listen to the radio so I'm not really sure about popular music, but one thing I do is I read a lot about music news, so one thing I've been noticing is with all of these new programs and websites like iTunes, Spotify, the free music...
最近的音乐界？实际上，你知道我不常听广播，所以我不太了解流行音乐，不过我会浏览大量音乐新闻，我一直在关注新程序还有iTunes、Spotify等网站以及免费音乐……
A: Like YouTube yeah?
比如YouTube？
B: YouTube. Yeah, YouTube as well. Like sometimes musicians, we don't...No one buys CDs anymore.
YouTube。对，还有YouTube。有时音乐家，我们不……现在没人再买CD了。
A: No.
对。
B: Right? When was the last time you bought a CD? Do you remember?
对吧？你上次买CD是什么时候？你还记得吗？
A: I don't even remember. Probably like ten years ago.
我不记得了。大概是10年前吧。
B: Right, so like with the internet and the increase of everyone having high speed internet all around the world, I think the industry is changing a lot, especially for musicians and how they get paid.
好，随着互联网的发展，现在世界上所有人的网速都很快，我认为音乐界改变了很多，尤其是对音乐家以及他们得到报酬的方式来说。
A: Yeah, true.
对，没错。
B: It's interesting in that kind of way, but I think it's a little...I think we need to change how we pay musicians because people can't make money anymore.
这值得注意，不过我认为……我认为我们应该改变支付音乐家报酬的方式，因为他们现在挣不到钱了。
A: No.
嗯。
B: Used to sell CDs and receive a profit from that, but now people are on YouTube downloading music illegally.
以前他们通过出售CD可以得到收益，但是现在人们都在Youtube上非法下载音乐。
A: Yes.
对。
B: Do you remember those programs that people ... What were they called? Like they were like downloader...Peer to peer downloading software programs, like I think one of them was called Napster. It was one of the biggest...
你记得那些程序吗？那些是什么来着？就是那种下载程序，点对点下载软件程序，其中一个程序是Napster。这是最大的下载程序之一……
A: Was it?
是吗？
B: Yeah, yeah. It was huge.
对，是的。这个程序很受欢迎。
A: Okay.
好。
B: You would download this ... I remember, it was about 15 years ago. You would download theprogram onto your computer and you'd search for something. Let's say Madonna, which was actually my first song that I ever downloaded illegally was Madonna because I liked her when I wasa kid.
我记得大约15年前就能通过这些程序下载音乐了。你可以把音乐下载到电脑上，还可以进行搜索。我第一首非法下载的歌是麦当娜的歌曲，因为我小时候很喜欢麦当娜。
A: Okay.
好。
B: Before my punk days.
在我玩朋克乐之前。
A: Alright. Right.
好，好的。
B: So yeah, you type in the name of the artist you want to listen to and you'ddown ... All these songs come up that people have placed on the internet.
输入你想听的音乐家的名字，然后下载。你可以搜索出人们放到网上的所有歌曲。
A: Right.
对。
B: And you can download that and you can keep it and listen to it as many times as you want for free.
你可以下载并保存这些歌曲，可以想听多少遍就听多少遍，而且都是免费的。
A: Yeah.
对。
B: And you didn't pay...I didn't pay Madonna anything.
你没有支付……我没有付麦当娜任何钱。
A: No.
没有。
B: Right? In that way, I think the music industry has changed a lot.
对吧？我认为从这一点来说，音乐界改变了很多。
A: Yeah, I think so.
对，我也是这么认为的。
B: Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure if it's good or bad, probably bad.
嗯，对。我不确定这是好事还是坏事，可能是坏事。
A: You think?
你认为是坏事？
B: For artists I think it's not good.
我认为对艺术家来说并不好。
A: For artists. Yeah.
对艺术家来说，对。
B: Especially if they're not as popular, so if they do not have a very big record deal.
尤其是如果艺术家并不太出名的话，如果他们的唱片合约并不重要的话。
A: Yeah.
对。
互联网发达的时代，流行歌手怎么获得报酬
来听今天的讲解:
A: Alright, so Ben, what do you think about the music industry recently?
好，本，你怎么看最近的音乐界？
B: Recently? Actually, you know I don't really listen to the radio so I'm not really sure about popular music, but one thing I do is I read a lot about music news, so one thing I've been noticing is with all of these new programs and websites like iTunes, Spotify, the free music...
最近的音乐界？实际上，你知道我不常听广播，所以我不太了解流行音乐，不过我会浏览大量音乐新闻，我一直在关注新程序还有iTunes、Spotify等网站以及免费音乐……
A: Like YouTube yeah?
比如YouTube？
B: YouTube. Yeah, YouTube as well. Like sometimes musicians, we don't...No one buys CDs anymore.
YouTube。对，还有YouTube。有时音乐家，我们不……现在没人再买CD了。
A: No.
对。
B: Right? When was the last time you bought a CD? Do you remember?
对吧？你上次买CD是什么时候？你还记得吗？
A: I don't even remember. Probably like ten years ago.
我不记得了。大概是10年前吧。
B: Right, so like with the internet and the increase of everyone having high speed internet all around the world, I think the industry is changing a lot, especially for musicians and how they get paid.
好，随着互联网的发展，现在世界上所有人的网速都很快，我认为音乐界改变了很多，尤其是对音乐家以及他们得到报酬的方式来说。
A: Yeah, true.
对，没错。
B: It's interesting in that kind of way, but I think it's a little...I think we need to change how we pay musicians because people can't make money anymore.
这值得注意，不过我认为……我认为我们应该改变支付音乐家报酬的方式，因为他们现在挣不到钱了。
A: No.
嗯。
B: Used to sell CDs and receive a profit from that, but now people are on YouTube downloading music illegally.
以前他们通过出售CD可以得到收益，但是现在人们都在Youtube上非法下载音乐。
A: Yes.
对。
B: Do you remember those programs that people ... What were they called? Like they were like downloader...Peer to peer downloading software programs, like I think one of them was called Napster. It was one of the biggest...
你记得那些程序吗？那些是什么来着？就是那种下载程序，点对点下载软件程序，其中一个程序是Napster。这是最大的下载程序之一……
A: Was it?
是吗？
B: Yeah, yeah. It was huge.
对，是的。这个程序很受欢迎。
A: Okay.
好。
B: You would download this ... I remember, it was about 15 years ago. You would download theprogram onto your computer and you'd search for something. Let's say Madonna, which was actually my first song that I ever downloaded illegally was Madonna because I liked her when I wasa kid.
我记得大约15年前就能通过这些程序下载音乐了。你可以把音乐下载到电脑上，还可以进行搜索。我第一首非法下载的歌是麦当娜的歌曲，因为我小时候很喜欢麦当娜。
A: Okay.
好。
B: Before my punk days.
在我玩朋克乐之前。
A: Alright. Right.
好，好的。
B: So yeah, you type in the name of the artist you want to listen to and you'ddown ... All these songs come up that people have placed on the internet.
输入你想听的音乐家的名字，然后下载。你可以搜索出人们放到网上的所有歌曲。
A: Right.
对。
B: And you can download that and you can keep it and listen to it as many times as you want for free.
你可以下载并保存这些歌曲，可以想听多少遍就听多少遍，而且都是免费的。
A: Yeah.
对。
B: And you didn't pay...I didn't pay Madonna anything.
你没有支付……我没有付麦当娜任何钱。
A: No.
没有。
B: Right? In that way, I think the music industry has changed a lot.
对吧？我认为从这一点来说，音乐界改变了很多。
A: Yeah, I think so.
对，我也是这么认为的。
B: Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure if it's good or bad, probably bad.
嗯，对。我不确定这是好事还是坏事，可能是坏事。
A: You think?
你认为是坏事？
B: For artists I think it's not good.
我认为对艺术家来说并不好。
A: For artists. Yeah.
对艺术家来说，对。
B: Especially if they're not as popular, so if they do not have a very big record deal.
尤其是如果艺术家并不太出名的话，如果他们的唱片合约并不重要的话。
A: Yeah.
对。
