Jeff: So you do winter camping and the place you live, do you get a lot of snow there?

Tim: We get quite a bit of snow but it's mostly just up in the mountains.

Jeff: So, lately there's been a lot of talk about global warming. So where you live, do you find that you can see the affects global warming, say with less snow?

Tim: I think you can. I think there's been less snow. That is not quite a noticeable as the glaciers that are on the mountains have gotten smaller and smaller, so I think there has been less snow although it's not real noticeable cause ski resorts are still open and there's still snow out there but to snow shoe but every summer the glaciers seem to be getting smaller and smaller.

Jeff: So you are about - what - 35 now?

Tim: Ah, younger than that actually.

Jeff: Really. So in your thirties, but when you were a boy, when you were young like 5 or 6 and you were playing in the snow, was there more snow back then?

Tim: I think there probably was. One thing is - I told you the snow is in the mountain - and there used to be a lot more snow in the valley where I live and I can't remember the last time we got snow in the valley.

Jeff: Really! So global warming, you think may be is getting worse?

Tim: I would say so. I think one of the biggest affects is we seem to be getting more rain actually. The weather patterns have switched a little bit and it seems like it's been dumping rain. There's been more flooding, so we're actually getting more rain and less snow.

Jeff: Oh, really. OK. Interesting.