Wendi: OK, so the next thing was when I was young, I used to watch this TV program. It was called the "Wonder Years". And I had such a crush on that kid Fred.
温迪：我小的时候看过《纯真年代》这部电视剧。当时我非常喜欢演孩子的弗莱德。
Ken: Fred Savage was it?
肯：是弗莱德·萨维奇吗?
Wendi: Yeah, yeah, Fred Savage. What was his name in that show?
温迪：对，弗莱德·萨维奇。他在戏里面叫什么?
Ken: I actually never really watched that show. No, I've seen a couple of reruns.
肯：其实我没怎么看过那部剧。不对，我看过几次重播。
Wendi: I know he had a crush on some girl names Wendi but I can't recall what his name was, but I has such a huge mad crush on him.
温迪：我记得他很喜欢名字是温迪的女孩，不过我想不起来他在戏里的名字了，我当时真的非常喜欢他。
Ken: It's that show with the little kid, but like someone else, like the adult's like recounting his childhood.
肯：那是一部讲述一个孩子成长的故事，里面是主角成年以后对自己童年时期进行的回忆。
Wendi: Yeah, I think so.
温迪：对，是这样的。
Ken: Like there's a narrator in the back.
肯：电视剧中有旁白。
Wendi: I think so. Yeah. I think so. But then, that whole thing just broke down when I saw Austin Powers, and "Mole, Mole, Mole, Mole".
温迪：是的，对。我记得也是。可是在我看了他出演的《王牌大贱谍》之后一切都结束了。
Ken: Was that him?
肯：那是他吗?
Wendi: Yeah.
温迪：对。
Ken: That was him?
肯：真的是他?
Wendi: It's the same guy and he's an adult and he's not attractive or cute whatsoever and so I just feel really betrayed. OK, so I told you about an actor I had a crush on when I was young. So what show did you grow up on that you totally had a crush on — one of the actresses?
温迪：对，是他，成年后的他不再那么吸引人，也不再可爱，我有种被背叛的感觉。我刚告诉了你我小时候喜欢的演员。你小时候有没有非常喜欢的节目和女演员?
Ken: Unfortunately. Unfortunately, I was banned from watching TV as a child.
肯：不幸的是，我小时候家里不让我看电视。
Wendi: Are you serious?
温迪：真的吗?
Ken: Yeah, so.
肯：对。
Wendi: Were you really?
温迪：真的?
Ken: I did not grow up watching TV. Yeah. I was not raised on TV.
肯：小时候不能看电视。我不是看着电视长大的。
Wendi: You weren't raised on TV at all?
温迪：你小时候完全不能看电视吗?
Ken: Not at all.
肯：对，完全不能看。
Wendi: So, were taking Monday to Friday, no TV?
温迪：周一至周五不能看电视?
Ken: I'm talking I had to, like while my mom was cooking dinner, I could like turn the volume really low on a nine inch black and white TV and maybe catch five minutes of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or something.
肯：我妈妈做晚饭的时候，我可以把那台九英寸黑白电视的音量调低，大概能看五分钟的《忍者神龟》或其他节目。
Wendi: Are you serious?
温迪：你说真的吗?
Ken: That's how bad it was.
肯：真实情况就是这么糟。
Wendi: That's shocking.
温迪：这太令人震惊了。
Ken: That is, yeah.
肯：是这样的。
Wendi: Yeah, so then at like what age did you, because you know how to work a computer quite well, when did you learn all this stuff?
温迪：你什么时候开始……你擅长电脑操作，你是什么时候开始学习这些的?
Ken: I guess once my brother and sister started growing up, then my mom, you know, let me have a little bit more freedom.
肯：我的兄弟姐妹渐渐长大以后，我妈妈就给了我一定的自由。
Wendi: Yeah. Yeah.
温迪：嗯。
Ken: We got our first computer. I was more into computer than TV, initially.
肯：我们买了第一台电脑。最初，比起电视，我对电脑更感兴趣。
Wendi: Yeah.
温迪：好。
Ken: And the first TV show I watched regularly must have been like the Simpsons, probably.
肯：我看的第一个电视节目可能是《辛普森一家》。
Wendi: How old were you?
温迪：当时你几岁?
Ken: I can't remember. Probably, seventh, eight grade.
肯：我记不清了。可能七年级或八年级。
Wendi: Oh, yeah.
温迪：哦。
Ken: So thirteen or fourteen years old.
肯：大概十三四岁了。
Wendi: Crazy. Crazy. That's amazing.
温迪：这太不可思议了，太令人震惊了。
Ken: Yeah.
肯：对。
