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Rob: Hello I’m Rob. Welcome to 6 Minute English. The World Cup is on. I love
football and that's what we are going to talk about today. Let's kick off the
programme with Pele!
Pele, Brazilian football player:
I was invited to go to Italy, to Spain. I was okay in Santos, it was my team. The team used
to win almost all the tournaments. And then I never have, you know, desire to play outside
Brazil or to play for money.
Rob: So that's Pele, one of the most celebrated football players in the world. And
I've invited Grace, my Brazilian colleague, to have a chat about football in her
home country.
Grace: Hi Rob.
Rob: Hi there. Well, is Pele still popular in Brazil?
Grace: As far as football goes, Pele's record speaks for itself, Brazilians love him; but
when he talks about politics, well, he's often criticised. But you started – you
kicked off – the programme talking about Pele, so of course our quiz question
today is about this fantastic player.
Rob: Okay, well, shoot!
Grace: How many goals did Pele score in his career? Was it…
a) About 700 goals
b) About 1,200 goals
c) About 1,600 goals
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Rob: Well, I know he was a great player, but 1,600 sounds too many, so I'll go for
the middle answer - around 1,200 goals.
Grace: We’ll find out if you are right or wrong a bit later. Now let’s get this ball rolling
and talk about football.
Rob: Yes, good idea. It's interesting that Pele mentioned in the clip that he wouldn't
leave his team – Santos - to play football abroad…
Grace: Yes, although, he did end his career with the New York Cosmos. In any case,
Pele said he didn't play for money. When he said that he was already well
known and had some money in his pocket, but Pele came from poverty.
Rob: Yes, his family didn't have much money at all. They lived in poverty.
Grace: Football has changed the lives of many youngsters in Brazil. Listen out for the
expression Brazilian sports reporter Daniel Gallas uses to describe how
football can help someone.
Daniel Gallas, Brazilian sports reporter:
Football is very important for social mobility in Brazil because not many people have the
chance to move from poverty into higher classes. For a while football was also a profession
which young men could follow through a proper career that they wouldn't have in other
areas. But nowadays middle class guys are becoming well known.
Rob: So football is important for social mobility - the ability to go from one class of
society to another.
Grace: And poor youngsters who have a natural talent to play football can become
middle class – they can own a home, have a car, live comfortably. Nowadays
some players come from the middle class already. And they… well, they
become millionaires!
Rob: Lucky them! They do earn their money but they are very exposed when they
play. Supporters can be very demanding. I know I am. I want to see my team
score goals!
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Grace: Let's hear what reporter Daniel Gallas has to say about what Brazilians – and
Rob – like to see on the pitch. Listen out for the positions of the players who
are not very famous, not very celebrated in Brazil.
Daniel Gallas, Brazilian sports reporter:
Brazilians like to see attacking football. They want to see strikers like Ronaldo, Bebeto,
Romario always aiming for the goal and not just passing the ball around from one side to the
other or backwards… they just want to move forward all the time. Brazilians don't tend to
boast too much about their goalkeepers.
Rob: So we have the goalkeepers – the players who are between the goalposts –
that area in football where you have a frame and a net. They try to prevent
the other team from scoring goals…
Grace: And Brazilians, to be honest, they don't tend to pay too much attention to
them. They cheer like mad when the strikers score.
Rob: The strikers are very important – the players who go on the attack, who strike
the ball and hopefully score! These are the ones we like to boast about!
Grace: I speak proudly – I boast about - Neymar, veterans like Ronaldo, Bebeto. And
obviously, the best player of all time, Edson Arantes do Nascimento – our
Pele!
Rob: Pele, yes. Well, I have my heroes too, you know. Here in England we have
David Beckham of course our great footballer of modern times, but there're
some classic players like Bobby Charlton and have you heard of George Best?
Grace: Yes, George Best, I've heard about him…
Rob: Very famous, yes. Well, look, we are running out of time but first, I want to
know if I got the answer to the quiz right.
Grace: How many goals did Pele score during his career as a footballer? The figure
was rounded off to make it easier for you. The options were: about 700; 1,200
or 1,600.
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Rob: And I said 1,200. Was I right?
Grace: Oh, yes. Scored the goal, Rob! According to the international governing body
of football, FIFA, Pele scored 1,281 goals in his career. In one match against
Botafogo in 1964, Rob, Pele hit the back of the net no less than eight times.
Rob: Wow, amazing!
Grace: Indeed. And now we must go. But let's remember the words we heard today.
Rob: Yes, we heard:
to kick off
poverty
social mobility
middle class
striker
goalkeeper
to boast
goalposts
That's it for today. Please join us soon for another 6 Minute English from BBC
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Both: Bye.
